• finderscult@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      No, Russias peace plan is the separatist nations get to exist, and Ukraine doesn’t get NATO bases so they can’t build up a second attack any time soon.

      Russia has been quite reasonable throughout.

    • Korkki@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      russias’s “peace plan” is “Ukraine no longer exists”

      No it isn’t. Eastern Ukraine and neutrality is still very far from the end of Ukraine and is still very reasonable deal to make for peace.

      Zelensky’s peace plan is still Russia to retreat from everywhere, including crimea, and then Ukraine can have “peace talks” about Russian reparations to Ukraine. This is not just unreasonable, it’s delusional. This kind of unbending attitude from the side that everybody knows is losing is no fucking bravery. It’s stupidity that prolongs a lost war for only Ukraine’s and Ukrainian people’s loss. All because Kiev and Zelensky are politically and narrative wise boxed themselves in for a war to the bitter end.

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        1 year ago

        This is not just unreasonable, it’s delusional

        “unreasonable” is a choice of words… russia invaded a sovereign state; that was their choice… i’d say it’s very reasonable for russia to fuck right off and fix the damages, which is to say nothing of the lives ukraine lost because of that choice - anything less is unreasonable

        whether that’s realistic or not is another question, but fair and reasonable are not realistic because the world is not fair, especially when it comes to the bullshit bullying that happens with all major military powers