NASA finally admits what everyone already knows: SLS is unaffordable::“At current cost levels the SLS program is unsustainable.”
Was Saturn V affordable?
Because maybe the question isn’t whether it’s affordable but whether we are budgeting enough money.
Maybe if we gave a little less to SpaceX, NASA could afford to do more.
Can I ask: do you actually believe NASA builds their own rockets themselves? Like out back in their shed with a table saw and pliers?
The prime contractor on the sls is boeing.
It’s just hate for musk, people who hate musk have blinders on and think every company he has any input into is a scam.
Not a scam, but a tool to help enemies of the democracy.
SpaceX is a tool that directly aids democracy. Without it, we still wouldn’t have independent access to space. We would be relying on the Russian Soyuz to carry us to the ISS, and due to the current situation, I don’t think they’d have let us continue riding the Soyuz if we didn’t have our own method.
What does the iss have to do with democracy?
The ISS is an important international partnership with allies and rivals alike that strengthens the US’ position on the world stage. That the US is capable of maintaining such a complex system is an example of democracy’s value and the US’ soft power.
SpaceX existed before Musk bought it. It could have ended being used by the NASA. Then you seem to forget the ESA and their Ariane launchers.
You’re conflating Tesla with SpaceX, Musk founded SpaceX in 2002. ESA doesn’t have a human spaceflight system.
Nah, I hate musk as much as the rest of them. SpaceX is the only company he has that’s worth a damn. I was really kind of happy when he started screwing with Twitter because he has less time to screw up SpaceX.
Now, that said, SpaceX needs competition. I will take us for musk to have one bad trip hop in there and start screwing that company over. If NASA is fully dependent on them…
SpaceX isn’t doing anything another company can’t do. It’s just that Boeing owns our f****** government.
Even then, commercial launch providers get much further with less money. Sure, if NASA had more budget, they could afford the SLS program. But the commercial launch providers show that they could be more efficient with the money they do have.
SpaceX is getting 2-3 bn dollars for Starship HLS development, most of the funding is coming from SpaceX itself. SLS costs up to 4 bn per flight. I’m not even going to mention the insane cost-overruns and years of delays associated with NASA’s cost-plus contract with Boeing to build the damn thing.
SLS is a sunk cost fallacy and jobs program.
If NASA cancelled every single contact they had with SpaceX… they might be able to afford 1/3rd of an SLS launch. Or maybe not, because then they’d have to start paying Russians for rides up to the ISS.
SpaceX is saving NASA boatloads of money. Which Congress is forcing them to waste on SLS.
Even considering that, the SLS is poor value for money. It’s basically a dumber space shuttle that you throw away. It’s a parody of 1970s technology.
We can, and should, do better for that price tag.
That was my immediate thought, it’s space exploration, it’s meant to cost more than is reasonable or affordable, because monetary rationale has never been a factor in it. Even if it did pay out in the long run with inventions and discoveries in the past, it’s never going to make budget sense because exploration and pushing our specie’s boundaries shouldn’t be. It’s a miracle what space agencies are/were able to accomplish with super strict budgets in the past, but in the end there’s only so much you can do by cutting corners and letting the private sector fill the gaps
but the SLS isn’t pushing boundaries. It’s just reusing leftover space shuttle parts and isn’t meant to do much more than what Atlas V managed. And still somehow costs billions per launch.
No, and that’s why we don’t launch then anymore.
The entire NASA budget is like 5% of the US military budget. Unaffordable my ass.
People in the middle east won’t bomb themselves you know.
That joke is now 2 years out of date and starting to grow mold
More than 2 I think
but still relevent
Replace wirh whatever country the US wants to steal resources from. Still valid.
Yeah we should just shut down SLS so all the money will … wait what will they do with the money again?
Bureaucrat: I mean we could track space asteroids but the chances of them falling in my lifetime are kind of slim that money would look a lot better in my pocket…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In a new report, the federal department charged with analyzing how efficiently US taxpayer dollars are spent, the Government Accountability Office, says NASA lacks transparency on the true costs of its Space Launch System rocket program.
Published on Thursday, the new report (see .pdf) examines the billions of dollars spent by NASA on the development of the massive rocket, which made a successful debut launch in late 2022 with the Artemis I mission.
“Senior NASA officials told GAO that at current cost levels, the SLS program is unaffordable,” the new report states.
The report also cites concerns about development costs of future hardware for NASA’s big-ticket rocket program, including the Exploration Upper Stage.
“Some NASA officials told us that changes to Artemis mission dates should not affect the SLS program’s cost estimate,” the report states.
“Other officials noted that the program’s cost estimate would be expected to increase to account for the delay to the Artemis IV mission, which shifted from 2026 to 2028.”
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Good bot.
Who’s “everyone”?
What is SLS?
There’s actually an article that tells you what it is. Oh look, it’s linked right at the top of this post!
Spoiler: space launch system
They use the phrase but never associate it with the acronym OR explain what it is. It’s shit writing.
I read it and still didn’t see it.
Lemmy has become a shithole.
They reply could have been nicer, but it is in the article.
Everybody please be nice and Lemmy won’t be a shithole.
Not that I expect someone named “friend of Satan” to be nice, but sometimes things that seem obvious to some people are not obvious to others. For example, if the milk bottle in the fridge is a different color (it’s blue label instead of red for some reason) then I sometimes can’t find the milk. Seems pretty obvious to most people, but it’s not to me. Give people benefit of the doubt. They may have a learning disability or something.
SLS is an intey step, but it doesn’t scale.
I hope NASA keeps investing in SpaceX and more importantly SpaceX competition.
We need more reusable rockets. RocketLab, Blue Origin, etc.
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I mean, sure, but you also have to remember that the Artemis/SLS program was crafted to be politically expensive to kill, not financially efficient.
I agree that it’s exorbitantly expensive and a comically inefficient use of funding, but congress passed a series of laws on the project mandating that certain components be made in certain areas by certain companies, as a way to give multiple states and constituencies skin in the game. Once SpaceX and reusable rocket tech came onto the stage and started to mature, SLS was always going to be on the path to irrelevance.
