• capital@lemmy.world
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      That was in response to being robbed.

      I think the phrase you’re looking for is “defending yourself”.

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        I don’t live in a 3rd world country, so I guess I just don’t understand the concept of needing to arm myself before leaving my house because I’m likely to need a deadly weapon while I go about my business.

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          I don’t live in a 3rd world country

          lol the US has the highest death rate from gun violence - it’s literally the #1 killer of children.

          which is not to assert that adding more firearms will help the situation, but it’s got fuckall to do with living in a first world country or third world country.

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            In these kinds of discussions you can assume the third world country jab was a reference to the US.

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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            As an aside: part of the definition of a First World Country includes being a “stable democracy”.

            If a poll was done of American citizens asking them “do you think fraud will play a part in the upcoming election?” I would be shocked if less than 80% said yes. That doesn’t sound like a stable democracy to me.

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          What country do you live in? I’m curious which one has no theft or violent crime.

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            Not OP check out my username for an idea of where I live. Besides a bit of gang on gang action in our capital, violent crimes are extremely rare. It’s maybe once a year that police have to shoot at a person, and even then police officers will assess the situation and if possible not go for center mass.

            Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

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              Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

              I remember hearing this when I lived in the UK for a few years and I was blown away. What are you expected to do if being robbed? Let it happen?

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                Call the police. Are you in physical danger? If not why are you putting yourself in physical danger?

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                  I don’t think I understand your question.

                  What scenario are you imagining with these questions?

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                  Yeah, not here.

                  I’ve had shit stolen. The police “handled it” to an extent but we will never get back priceless family heirlooms given to us from my wife’s side of the family. Fuck thieves.

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                    Did you not have a gun at the time? Or did your ownership of a gun not prevent the theft?

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                    Agreed thieves are terrible.

                    Not many better options if you are getting robbed though.

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            There’s a difference between “violent crime exists” and “violent crime is so prevalent that regular citizens need to carry around an implement designed to kill people quickly while they go about their daily lives.”

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              I’ve never been in a serious vehicle accident.

              Still wear my seat belt though.

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                “Wearing a seatbelt is the same as walking around with a device that can near instantly kill people.” Is something said by someone living in a dystopia.

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                  It was a preparedness analogy which seems to have gone over your head.

                  Is something said by someone living in a dystopia.

                  You’ve had a variation on this in just about every response. It’s getting very old. We get it, US bad.

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                    Was my statement wrong in any way?

                    If it’s getting old stop trying to argue against it by saying the dystopian attitude is necessary.

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        In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone. “You should have an easy way to kill someone on you at all times, and keep it hidden so they don’t know” is not self defense, but clear signs of a dystopia.

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          No, being limited in self defense to the power of your body is a pre-civilized state. Asking women to punch people to defend themselves is nature rules. That’s where whoever’s biggest gets to take advantage of people.

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          In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone.

          My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.

          If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.

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            “Property is more valuable than human lives.”
            A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

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              “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…