• polle@feddit.de
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    2 years ago

    I’m all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

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    2 years ago

    The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

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      2 years ago

      Been a Linux-only gamer for a year now. The hype is real and PC gaming has changed forever. Most people just hesitate to actually leave Windows behind, but the grass on the other side is much, much greener.

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      2 years ago

      It’s truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I’m contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don’t really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

      The madlads really did it.

    • Veloxization@yiffit.net
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      2 years ago

      I made the switch and everything I want to play works. Some of it needed a bit of tweaking, though. Luckily instructions exist, and some began working with new Proton updates. It’s a good time to be a gamer on Linux.

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        2 years ago

        If devs started making anticheat for Linux it would get closer.

        If they stopped making launchers it would be easier too.

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          2 years ago

          Is really just:

          1. Install any Linux Distro
          2. See if you have the drivers for your hardware already installed
          3. Install Steam
          4. Change the setting for Enable Steam Play on Steam
          5. Download the game and play it.

          Of course, like in windows, something could go wrong and you need to tinker a little bit to fix it but for the vast majority is just like that.

    • Porrny@lemmynsfw.com
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      2 years ago

      I just hope feature parity happens before MS make their move to reduce windows pcs to literally zero clients that simply stream ´your´ OS to your screen from the cloud.

      Don’t need a pc for much but god damn if I don’t want to play my games on my pic when I want. Online, offline, whatever.

      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 years ago

        It’s pretty much at parity. The only straggler I am aware of is ray tracing on the AMD side (supported on their driver package, but not yet with the driver included in the Linux kernel). I never use it anyway because I have a 6600 XT and don’t want to play a slideshow.

    • giant_smeeg@feddit.uk
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      2 years ago

      Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it’s like:

      • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
      • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
      • LOCATION?
      • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

      My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don’t game on my laptop and most of it’s use is browser, plex and emails…

  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    I was dealing with a boot kit exploit a couple years back.

    On the great side (for me) Microsoft’s shitty fucking online installation requirements helped prompt me permanently switching to Linux.

    On the negative side the issues were still there.

    On the positive side I learned about air gapping a pc.

    On the native side the issues were still there.

    On the negative my self installed deadbolt was a waste of $40 because I forgot my fucking keys in it once and the issue was still there. Also I didn’t install it properly.

    On the positive side my new deadbolt evidently works.

    On the negative side it cost me $500 in addition to brand new hardware and the cost of a locksmith to install it securely.

    On the mixed side I epoxied my windows shut, which was a very elegant solution by my apartment being very easy to break in to.

    On the positive side I won’t even touch windows now, and my knowledge of how a pc and operating system works has increased exponentially under Linux and I actually understand a little bit of C, in addition to bash and Python, which is, awesome.

    On the positive my home is secure which is awesome.

    On the negative side: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

    On the mixed side I also no longer order from Amazon. Or order electronics from anywhere.

  • Sygheil@lemmy.worldBannedB
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    2 years ago

    Nobody wants a smartphone-like function on an OS for pc/laptop. Also giving users back the control over would be nice looking at you defender.

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    2 years ago

    Let’s cut the crap: it’s not that they “realized” nobody wants it – it’s that they’ve come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

  • stebo@sopuli.xyz
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    2 years ago

    a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

    Still no Microsoft edge though…

    • simdlauper@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 years ago

      No longer providing a browser with a consumer operating system is a bad idea. How would you install another browser?

      They just need to stop plugging and advertising it so relentlessly.

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          2 years ago

          It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation).

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                2 years ago

                Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI.

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                  2 years ago

                  Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time.

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    2 years ago

    Good, maybe in two or three more years Windows 11 will be useable. Right on time for Windows 12 to roll out and drag Microsoft users back to the Stone Age again.

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    2 years ago

    Once I cared about preinstalled bloatware. As long as it is inactive and small I stopped caring. The named apps together aren’t even 200MByte.

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    2 years ago

    Is there something like LTSC/LTSB for Windows 11?

    I have Win10LTSC installed on a separate partition for games and the thought of having to “upgrade” to Windows 11 at some point in the future is nightmare inducing.