• orclev@lemmy.world
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    Quality programmers are a finite resource. Amazon chewed through the entire unskilled labor market with their warehouses and then struggled to find employees to meet their labor needs. If they try the same stunt with skilled labor they’re in for a very rude awakening. They’ll be able to find people, but only for well above market rates. They’re highly likely to find in the long run it would have been much cheaper to hang onto the people they already had.

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      The whole problem with companies like Amazon is that hardly anyone in charge of them seems to care about long term sustainability. They all just invest enough effort to squeeze out some short term profits, earn their bonuses and then leave for another company to do it all again. Nobody is interested in sustainability because there is no incentive to. They’re playing hot potato with the collapse of the company.

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        Now expand that to the entire planetary economy. Unsustainable short term gains is the entire industrial revolution.

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          There has been efficiency gains throughout. Capitalism is amazing for that, far better than other systems.

          The problem is too many people. If standard of living is to increase then the resource requirement is due to massive unsustainable population growth.

          That and the fact the public hate externalities and don’t want them used at all never mind aggressively.

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            The problem is too many people. If standard of living is to increase then the resource requirement is due to massive unsustainable population growth.

            They’re both important. And crucially, people in developed countries use a lot more resources than those in undeveloped countries. Just look at the resource utilization of our richest people. We have billionaires operating private rocket companies! If somehow, say due to really really good automation, orbital rockets could be made cheap enough for the average person to afford, we would have average middle class people regularly launching rockets into space and taking private trips to the Moon. Just staggering levels of resource use. If we could build and maintain homes very cheaply due to advanced robotics, the average person would live in a private skyscraper if they could afford it. Imagine the average suburban lot, except with a tower built on it 100 stories tall. If it was cheap enough to build and maintain that sort of thing, that absolutely would become the norm.

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        They all just invest enough effort to squeeze out some short term profits, earn their bonuses and then leave for another company to do it all again.

        Amazon is not at all alone in this. Much of 2024 capitalism, at least within the tech space, works like this pretty much everywhere.

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      That’s the next executive’s problem. These executives will jump ship with their golden parachutes before any of that affects them.

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        Well then bring it on. If feels too big to fail, but if (hypothetically) Amazon were to go under, the world would be a better place.

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        They may not want them, but with how many people are switching to things like AWS, they may find they need them.

        And it will ultimately cost them more to find new people when they realize that they’re pissing off their customers with their poor new hires.

        I will be happy to watch them squirm when they come to this realization. Karma is a bitch, Amazon.

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      An awakening would mean they would analyze and understand the situation. They won’t. Amazon has and probably always had a bullish “my way or the highway” attitude - ask people what they think, pretend you care, then ignore everything they might say. Upper managers make decisions uniquely based off costs and short term vision, and are never held accountable for the consequences. I worked there for years and you really can’t imagine how bad the work culture is there, whatever you have in mind is worse in reality