• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Their ad metrics thing is 100% private. Nobody, not even Mozilla, can tie the data back to you. Each data point is packaged separately (so that you can’t get all of it and easily work out who it is). Mozilla created an effective way to have genuinely privacy-respecting and metrics and they’re hated for it.

    I don’t like ads, I use an adblock, but the internet runs on ads. Ads unfortunately have to exist if we still want all this online content, and if they do exist, they should be private.

    With any hope, the likes of the EU will push for this over the kinds of ad systems that Google and Meta push.

    As for the AI integration in Firefox - it runs locally and does stuff like offline translation (i.e not sending the contents of the page to Google translate), as well as enhanced screen reader functionality for blind people. Stop trying to equate it to the likes of ChatGPT.

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      2 years ago

      People see AI and immediately think of ChatGPT. This is despite the fact that AI has been around far longer and does way more things including OCR and data mining. It’s never been AI that’s the problem, but rather certain uses of AI.

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      2 years ago

      the internet doesn’t run on ads. we were all fine before the megacorporations came in and started pushing ads down our throats for delivering the exact same services that already existed for free. it just so happens ads are more profitable, and with more profit, you have more ways to achieve exposure, which gives you more profit, ad infinitum.

      point is, we’d be fine without ads.

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        2 years ago

        Do you use any Firefox or chromium web browser, JavaScript, HTML5, CSS, or WASM because I’m 90% most of the development for all of that comes from Ad companies or companies funded by ads.

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          2 years ago

          there were tons of video streaming sites around before youtube came around. i even ran one at the time.

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            2 years ago

            And did you pay those people? How much money were they able to make off their artistic efforts?

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          2 years ago

          are you 12? it seems you have no experience or memory of a world before 2012. everything which is currently being controlled by a handful of companies like Meta or Google today existed in huge volumes before these snakes paid their way into global dominance. i.e. there were hundreds of big community websites long before facebook. there were several great search engines before google. there were several streaming sites before youtube. there were tons of chat applications before Messenger/WhatsApp. there were thousands of email services before gmail, hotmail, and yahoo created their “whitelist”, etc etc. Heck, Messenger (and google talk, etc) - all used XMPP originally, but isolated their network when it grew big enough to kill competition and force users onto their platform. we all USED to be able to use whatever client we wanted and still keep in touch with family and friends. we all USED to be able to run our own mail servers. we all USED to…

          fuck it. why am I putting effort into this lol.

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            2 years ago

            Which search engine was running without ads? Were any of those streaming sites paying content creators? Was your streaming site handing traffic for more than 10 users? What was your outgoing bandwidth bill from your ISP?