• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think they’re implying this mostly hit Hezbollah members, not than none of the victims were innocent.

    Based on… what exactly?

    The clear implication is that “number of Hezbollah member > victims = no innocent victims.”

    And then you instantly jump into defending genocide. Holy fucking shit I honestly can’t communicate with words how disgustingly pathetic I find that.

    No, I’m not gonna engage with your whataboutism and start arguing with you about how “Hezbollah deserved this absolutely pathetic terrorist attack.

    “Brought it on himself brought it on himself”

    You fuckers still haven’t realised that Hammurabi’s law makes the whole world blind, huh? That was almost 4000 years ago, ffs. Read a book, preferably a modern one and not some tome of propaganda from thousands of years ago.

    You’re literally defending the death of a 9-year old girl. You have to be sick in the fucking head to do that. Honestly.

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      And you should read Popper’s Paradox of Tolerance.

      Eye for an eye makes the world go blind only works when one party doesn’t exist solely to exterminate another.

      That’s what Hezbollah is.

      I have never defended genociders - you on the other hand keep defending Hezbollah.

      The world needs to deal with Hezbollah the same way it needs to deal with Zionism and the same way it eventually dealt with the Nazis.

      Tell me dumbass, do you think Netanyahu and co. will stop his campaign on Gaza if everyone decided not to retaliate? Or would he just order his men to take advantage of the situation and shoot them down? Do you think the Nazis or any other group, such as Hezbollah, intent on genocide would accept peace?

      Of course ideally such corrupt evil fucks could be eliminated with no innocent casualties. But that’s unfortunately not the way the world works. Do you think innocent casualties didn’t occur when other fascist evils were fought? You think only military personnel were killed in WW2?

      You’re either a naïve kid, or have thought up of miracle solution like a death note.

      This was a case of monsters fighting monsters; we’re lucky that this at least was an actual very precise strike one monster did to the others, rather than their usual M.O. of just striking buildings with missiles.

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        1 year ago

        You’re seriously saying “they deserve the ‘eye-for-an-eye’ treatment” while Israel is actively escalating the conflict?

        I have never defended genociders

        Oh okay. So where have I done that? In assuming that 3000 civilians who were harmed weren’t exclusively Hezbollah? Which would be an utterly ridiculous claim seeing how many literal children there are involved.

        So… you’ve never defended genociders. Then let’s see if you will. Is Israel committing a genocide in Gaza?

        You think only military personnel were killed in WW2?

        I’ve actually been in the military and have had training on what is and isn’t legal to do in armed conflict. Have you?

        https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule12

        Rule 12. Definition of Indiscriminate Attacks

        Rule 12. Indiscriminate attacks are those: (a) which are not directed at a specific military objective;

        (b) which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or

        © which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law; and consequently, in each such case, are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.

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          Which country’s military? Because I’m more than willing to bet your country has killed innocents too, even if by accident. Depending on the country, like the USA, deliberately killing them too. Congratulations on choosing to actively participating in that horridness I suppose.

          Is Israel committing a genocide in Gaza?

          I see you weren’t the reading comprehension guy in the military. But since you need it directly spelled out for your crayon eating ass to understand - yes, the Israeli government is committing genocide. You know who else is trying their hand at Genocide? Hezbollah.

          But hey, while we have ‘holier than thou’ ex-military on the line, how about a bit of a trolley problem for you:

          If you could dispose of Netanyahu along with the top heads of his genocidal campaign, at the cost of 10 children, would you? And just to make it even easier on you, let’s add that doing so will end Israel’s current war and genocide campaign too.

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            1 year ago

            Which country’s military? Because I’m more than willing to bet your country has killed innocents too, even if by accident

            Finland. Go ahead and dig dirt. We have such a cruel and bloody history and we never do what we say or listen to laws. /S

            I see you weren’t the reading comprehension guy in the military. But since you need it directly spelled out for your crayon eating ass to understand - yes, the Israeli government is committing genocide

            You don’t seem to understand what reading comprehension is, nor understand the existence of people who absolutely refuse to admit to Israel’s warcrimes. Like the war crime they committed with this indiscriminate bombing, which can’t be limited as international law requires.

            International law is international law. And Israel is breaking it.

            Edit oh and I’m not **ex-**military until I’m 60. Also, I was the company’s quartermaster, which very much is a reading job for the most part.