Why did UI’s turn from practical to form over function?

E.g. Office 2003 vs Microsoft 365

Office 2003

It’s easy to remember where everything is with a toolbar and menu bar, which allows access to any option in one click and hold move.

Microsoft 365

Seriously? Big ribbon and massive padding wasting space, as well as the ribbon being clunky to use.

Why did this happen?

  • scarabic@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m so tired of neck beards assuming that any spacing in a design is a waste, as if a good design packs every milimeter with stuff. Proper application of negative space is common in art and throughout design.

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      1 year ago

      Almost like Microsoft did a tremendous amount of user research aimed at improving the accessibility of the most commonly used features. I don’t use their products much, but the design has definitely improved over the years and extra padding is a big part of it.

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      1 year ago

      You are among the first people I’ve seen online who hasn’t circlejerked about literally any level of padding/spacing being too much padding.

      People on Reddit/Lemmy always talk about how unusably shit any modern design is, and how UX/UI from 20+ years ago was so much better.

      Yet do people use ancient copies of the software that broadly still performs the tasks people need of them? No.

      Do they theme their system to look like the oh-so-superior Win98? No.

      Don’t get me wrong, sometimes I see a design change I dislike. But as a general rule, UI has definitely got better over the years.

      And don’t get me wrong, part of me feels great nostalgia at seeing old UX’s, because it reminds me of the “good old days” when I bought my first computer in 1999. It’s fun to Go back and use systems from back then. And at first you think AAAAA this is so cool, I remember all this, this looks neat, but after that nostalgia wears off you think *“thank god modern UIs aren’t inconsistent, cramped and cluttered like this”

      Nostalgia goggles are a powerful thing.

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        1 year ago

        People spend lots of money to buy big screens, only for apps/websites to use a fraction of it.

        I cannot control how every application or website I have to use looks, but where I can, I try to find solutions.

        When I am occasionally on reddit, I use old.reddit. I use addons for youtube, to remove unecessary stuff, or open videos directly in mpv.

        I use reader mode to make many sites easier to navigate.

        Mastodon and Lemmy have a much better design than Twitter or new Reddit.

        On the one windows machine I still have, I use the classic shell, to replace the start menu with something more usable.

        I use Libreoffice, and many other Software with sane functional UI.

        I don’t want to use old software, because the older software gets, the more hostile the environment becomes for it.

        A lot of UI decisions on the Internet seem driven by the need to create empty spaces to put advertising into, and with adblocker it looks just bad.

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      1 year ago

      For some, with only a small screen, wasted space means extra navigation to find hidden commands. A usability fail just so the app looks pretty. Also a symptom of “one UI fits all” just to save businesses money.

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        1 year ago

        In my experience working with Designers for web and app design, they always had trouble with dynamic stuff at all levels, from program flow and elements which dynamically collapsed or expanded to using animation to illustrate things or call attention to something.

        Don’t get me wrong, as a programmer I was like a toddler next to them when it came to even just awareness of all the concerns related to merelly visual organisation, not counting all sorts of other concerns in a visual design some of which I’m sure I’m even not aware exist. It’s just that when it came to dynamic elements their expertise was comparativelly non-existent.