• venusaur@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You should have to actually validate your age to use social media and you should be required to be 18.

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      10 months ago

      No I don’t think we should give corpos access to even more identifying info about us. You have a kid YOU have the responytobtake care of them not me. If you believe a kid should be able to go on the internet without proper surveillance it’s on you if something happens to that kid not me. I would not give my kids a blank plane ticket to go anywhere they want in the world without surveillance, it’s the same for the internet. It’s not my responsibility to secure your kid it’s yours.

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        10 months ago

        U don’t have to do anything unless u work for the agency that is verifying age. Would you say the same about school shooters? Not your problem. Up to parents to stop their kids. Unfortunately, we allow anybody to create life as there are a lot of bad parents.

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          10 months ago

          Your argument does not make sense. I defend my kid from school shooting by not living in the States. Don’t give guns to deranged people and most of your problems with school shooting is solved.

          I do not have to give my ID when I walk around a school.

          Letting a kid roam on the internet is more like giving them blank plane tickets than sending them to school.

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            10 months ago

            it’s not always about your kids. it’s about the other kids that aren’t being parented. that’s why there are age restrictions for things like alcohol and guns.

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              10 months ago

              Age restriction on cigarettes and alcohol is not for kids that are not parented but to prevent companies abusing kids to make more profit wich is why I say selling of internet connected devices and internet connection should be done to adults only. But don’t force me to give companies all my personal data.

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                10 months ago

                Fair enough. Social media is addictive and it’s the wild west for political radicalization. It should be restricted for kids whose brains are still developing. You can get devices anywhere. What you’re suggesting is like restricting lighter sales but not tobacco. Doesn’t work.

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                  10 months ago

                  None of what you are saying is addressing the massive privacy violation of tracking everyone’s internet habits and websites having a copy of your ID. Even if they are 100% responsible with your data, do you realize how often websites get hacked?

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                    10 months ago

                    Doesn’t have to be ID directly to the website. Some other validated token can exist. I don’t have the solution but there will be one whether you can imagine it or not. Data gets stolen all the time. It’s just part of living in a digital world and part of that will require protecting children from radicalization and hyper-sexualization. Don’t think about red or blue. Think about the negative effects that porn and social media have on kids and then the adults they become.

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      10 months ago

      People who use age as a measure of intelligence are the proof that is doesn’t work. ;)

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        10 months ago

        It doesn’t have to (and shouldn’t) be the social media company gathering that information but a third party verification system that doesn’t save anything, just validates the age using a driver’s license/form of ID. We can do this (we do it for military and veterans so companies can give them discounts) in the US already.

        I can understand not wanting to give social media too much data on you, but honestly they probably already have it already. Especially on platforms like Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

        If we’re supposed to be protecting children (with all these stupid laws anyway), then let’s actually do that instead of just pretending all these stupid restrictions we currently have actually work.

        No, I don’t think the cutoff should be 18 either but a parent or guardian being forced to validate a 14 year old’s account for them might actually force them to engage with what their kid is doing online which I would consider a win.

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          10 months ago

          The age is 13 for coppa and they are required to get their parents permission already. Also are people in other countries supposed to have a US ID now? If it isn’t saved, couldn’t you just copy your parent’s ID while they aren’t looking? This doesn’t solve anything.

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          10 months ago

          Yes dear, but if you take 2 minutes to understand how the threaded comment system works you will realize I was not talking about the article but replying to a specific comment who mentionned the age of “18” as some kind of cutoff date.