Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to "immediately" order a ceasefire in Ukraine and start negotiations if Kyiv began withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected what he called an ultimatum by Putin to surrender more territory.
Russia occupies like 20% of Ukraine and Ukraine has been militarily unable to change that. Recognising that the Russian military is stronger than Ukraine’s isn’t a show of support for Russia - I’ve got no love for them personally - it’s just acknowledging reality.
Also worth noting that Russia has not made any real significant territorial advances since the start of the war despite hundreds of thousands of casualties while massively burning down their inheritance of old soviet systems. It’s not just Ukraine who hasn’t been able to change that.
Conflicts like this aren’t just determined by military strength, as there is defender advantage, political will to fight, western aid, etc. to consider that could change the balance. I would agree that Russia has the edge right now, but that’s definitely something that can change.
No, but they are more military competent unlike Russia. Competent military vs conscripts with shitty equipment/no equipment. There is a difference here and this is after they are running out of ammunition to fight and are barely allowed to return fire into Russia.
Where are you getting this information? Anything I’ve heard , even from fairly typical western sources, say Ukraine is not doing great and that Russia (given that it’s the world’s 4th largest economy) is clearly the victor.
Those are the 2022 estimates, before they were knee deep in a war. More up-to-date estimates from the IMF put them at #6. And that #6 is quite distant from the US.
“Superior military power.” Lol good one. 😂
Russia occupies like 20% of Ukraine and Ukraine has been militarily unable to change that. Recognising that the Russian military is stronger than Ukraine’s isn’t a show of support for Russia - I’ve got no love for them personally - it’s just acknowledging reality.
Also worth noting that Russia has not made any real significant territorial advances since the start of the war despite hundreds of thousands of casualties while massively burning down their inheritance of old soviet systems. It’s not just Ukraine who hasn’t been able to change that.
Conflicts like this aren’t just determined by military strength, as there is defender advantage, political will to fight, western aid, etc. to consider that could change the balance. I would agree that Russia has the edge right now, but that’s definitely something that can change.
Ukraine on its own, you could argue this. Ukraine with its alliances? No way.
That is the current situation, Ukraine with its alliances are still gradually losing militarily
What are you saying? That Ukraine is a stronger military force than all Russia?
At least on their home turf with their western equipment, yes. Russia is throwing pretty much everything at Ukraine, and Ukraine is doing pretty well.
No, but they are more military competent unlike Russia. Competent military vs conscripts with shitty equipment/no equipment. There is a difference here and this is after they are running out of ammunition to fight and are barely allowed to return fire into Russia.
Where are you getting this information? Anything I’ve heard , even from fairly typical western sources, say Ukraine is not doing great and that Russia (given that it’s the world’s 4th largest economy) is clearly the victor.
Russia is more like 8th, and Ukraine is backed by multiple countries that outrank Russia.
When you consider Purchasing power, Russia is fourth.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?most_recent_value_desc=true&year_high_desc=true
Those are the 2022 estimates, before they were knee deep in a war. More up-to-date estimates from the IMF put them at #6. And that #6 is quite distant from the US.