• Drusas@kbin.run
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    93
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 years ago

    “So when we were faced with destruction as a nation after Pearl Harbor…"

    The US was never faced with destruction during World War II.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      2 years ago

      People like Graham are oblivious to the huge opportunity WWII gave us to dominate markets because Europe and Asia had been destroyed. They think it was American Exceptionalism all the way. Their inability to grasp this is why they are ineffective at leading now that other nations have caught up.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      Hey now. The threat of destruction was just as bad as the actual destruction across Europe and Asia.

    • gramie@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      2 years ago

      Obviously you haven’t seen that fine documentary The Man in the High Castle.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      2 years ago

      It’s very hard for people (well, neurotypical people) to understand what real destruction means when that contests their system of considering themselves (and their friends, their country etc) very cool.

      Most of those advocating for bombing cities and big wars would turn into whining piss-smelling sacks of shaking meat the moment they meet one person not weaker than them angry at them in a back alley.

    • SoylentBlake@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      2 years ago

      I mean, yes and no. Pearl harbor wasn’t the only place hit 12/7. Philipines, Guam and Wake were all hit as well

      Hong Kong and Singapore were also attacked and the empire invaded Malaysia.

      America took a sharp hit square in the face, but Britain got sent home in a body bag at the end of 1941. By Feb 1942 the UK had lost all of Malaysia, lost Hong Kong and lost Singapore. They lost 12,000 troops, the rest surrendering. Zero soldiers made it home. America had never been pit against such an enemy. You have to take all of WW2 into that context. Fuck in WW1 they played soccer across no-man’s-land on Christmas. The next year the Canadians had arrived and…well…I’m not saying shit about canuckistani military just that over half of the geneva convention exists because of Canada.