• gerryflap@feddit.nl
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    I’m supposed to have energy as an adult?! I have way more time than energy. Most of that time is spent doing useless shit like watching YouTube because I’m too exhausted to do anything useful

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      No, I’m willing to bet you have plenty of energy. Society has simply deemed that all of it must be spent on being productive for the sake of everyone except yourself.

      “If your employees have energy to spend on meaningful activities during their own time, you’re leaving money on the table. Squeeze them harder while they are on the clock.”

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        Disagree. I used to spend time on more energy-intensive hobbies like programming and music production. But I’ve had mono and COVID in 2020 and I’ve never felt the same thereafter. Also working 40 hours a week drains a lot of energy

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          “No, I’m willing to bet you have plenty of energy. Society has simply deemed that all of it must be spent on being productive for the sake of everyone except yourself.”

          “Also working 40 hours a week drains a lot of energy”

          Hence the first comment. What if you only had to work 20 hours a week? You’d have the energy then.

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            True. Guess I misread. I’ve already switched to 36 hours and I totally aim to go lower once I earn more. Work to live, not live to work

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        Agree to disagree, I likely have a sleep disorder, so I haven’t had a good night’s sleep in nearly 10 years! Check, and, mate! Fuck I hate my life…

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    Software engineers get paid more than any other engineering discipline so that part is wrong AF but yea the rest is valid

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      Programmer pay is so bizarre, it makes me cynical about our entire economy.

      If I’m a blue-collar worker maintaining the wires between banks, I get paid little. If I’m a programmer maintaining the banking software that controls everyone’s money and is essential to the entire nation, I’m paid a little more, but not as much as some programmers.

      If I’m a young man who creates a webpage that barely works venture capitalists are tripping over themselves trying to shove millions of dollars into my hands.

      (Although, creating a webpage was the hot thing last decade, now the hot thing is creating an AI.)

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    I’ve recently changed to a part-time contract, thanks to decent wages we get in IT. None of my friends outside of IT could afford that. If anyone claims IT professionals earn too little, they should change their job and see how much their life improves then.

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    If you think programmers make less than other jobs then you’re totally out of touch.

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      Not all programmers live in the US. In the UK, especially outside of London, the pay is surprisingly bad.

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          My wife is a teacher. Her pay was mostly comparable to mine throughout our careers. My pay has literally tripled since working in London.

          Currently, there are senior design and development roles in my home city of Bristol that pay less than what you’d get paid as a fast food manager.

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            I knew pay in the UK was bad for developers but that’s completely cuckoo. It sounds more like the uk is the odd one out though since while EU pay is lower than US I do know that it’s still better than most other jobs in the same area even if you aren’t in the Capitol. But there’s also always remote work if you live somewhere with no jobs.

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              It’s a mix of both. My wife makes good money as a teacher, primarily because she’s very senior in her role, and takes leadership responsibilities. Teachers are required in (mostly) equal measure everywhere, whereas software engineers always gravitate towards HCOL areas where the jobs are. If you’re not in one of these areas, you’re stuck with limited jobs, with limited pay.

              My commute is close to two hours, one way, but the pay I can get here is over double what I’ll get where I live. Comparably, as a senior I probably get paid less than a new graduate in a HCOL city in the US.

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      Yeah but all the other jobs don’t leave you with crypto debt up to your eyeballs. I have $83k in credit card debt that I used to buy LUNA.

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    Lmao, no.

    Go work a job in a different industry before thinking you have it so tough.

    Programmers make more money, have more vacation and free time, and consequently typically have stabler lives, than literally every single other professional industry.

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      Also their careers grow faster and steadier even in a recession, changing jobs is easier and comes with a significant pay raise each time, and they mostly don’t have to deal with costumers.

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        Thank god we don’t have to deal with costumers, imagine what outfit you’d have to wear to deal with them. And to make it work you’d probably have to wear make up too, it’d feel like halloween everyday.

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    Most old people don’t have that much money. Many UK pensioners freeze in their homes every year.

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      My wife and I make a decent income between the two of us, and we nearly froze to death winter before last! £500pcm+ to keep our house at like 10°C, absolute madness.

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        That’s wild, how big is your house? My monthly spend on heating is 1/4 of that during winter to keep it at 21.

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          Single glazed everything, shoddy extension that’s falling to bits, and no insulation anywhere, 12ft ceilings and also our boiler is shit. It’s a two bedroom Victorian terrace, ground floor. Fighting with Edinburgh Council to get approval for a much needed renovation, but even though the category of listing our home is literally only covers the front facade, our really quite modest renovation plan would “be a detriment to the character of the neighbourhood”. Our upstairs neighbour also paid significantly less that winter…but they got approval to rip all their floors up and install insulation and double glazed windows.

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    I actually got bucket loads of free time after finishing my studies, I didn’t know what to do with it. Like why does everyone always act like students have time? It’s a full time job plus you have to do projects and homework.

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    Ive always thought thsoe graphs were bullshit, im a college student and I have no time, energy, or money. I feel like this will not change drastically as i age lmao