Passenger sees Boeing 757-200 “wing coming apart” mid-air — United flight from San Francisco to Boston makes emergency landing in Denver::A United Airlines flight to Boston was diverted to Denver because of an issue with the plane’s wing.
What the fuck is going on at Boeing? Are they cutting that many corners?
This occurred on a 29 year old plane. This is almost certainly just a one-off issue. Unless it starts happening frequently with other 757s, it’s nothing to be overly concerned about. And in that case, the NTSB would figure out why it’s happening and issue a directive.
Planes are designed on a “Swiss cheese” model. Swiss cheese (as Americans call any variety resembling Emmental) is full of holes, but you can’t usually see all the way through a block of it. On a plane, something might fail and you can’t always prevent that, but you can make sure that there is enough redundancy that if something does go wrong you’re still covered. For something to cause a plane to crash, the “holes” have to line up so something could pass all the way through the “cheese.”
Very nice explanation of industry safety without getting too caught up in the details!
This “one-off” issue was spotted on dozens of 737s.
This “one-off” issue was spotted on dozens of 737s.
This issue with a damaged wing slat on this particular 29-year-old 757 was spotted on dozens of 737s? Do you have a source for that?
Unless you’re confusing this with the 737 MAX 9 door plug issue. That is not a one-off, that is a manufacturing/assembly issue. And that’s my point. The door plug situation is a systemic problem on many brand new planes, whereas this story is about a relatively small issue on a 29-year-old plane.
Something being damaged on a 757 shouldn’t shake people’s confidence in Boeing. Shit going wrong in the design and manufacturing of the 737 MAX series should.
This guy planes.
If you’ve got like 24 minutes this video gives a pretty solid explanation.
I wish the article said how old the plane is. A lot of Boeing jets are 50+ years old and at that point, you have to blame the airline. But this article doesn’t say.
At least in Europe, passengers jets are new because more fuel efficient at the “normal” speed. These old jets are then transformed in cargo where they go very slow so fuel efficiency goes up by other means (and the old jet is way cheaper).
This was a passenger plane so i doubt it was anywhere close to 50 years old
A 757 can be between 20 and 40 years old
This is the plane, I believe. 29 years old.
Nothing for this case at least.
It’s completely unrelated to Boeing per se. Likely a maintenance issue, maybe repair done wrong.
Didn’t they fire like half their QA staff a couple years ago?
This is so good. So many layers in that one joke.
Like…2
Damn, imagine working in the marketing department of Boeing.
“When it hasn’t been your day, your week, your month, or even your year.”
I’ll be there for youuu
When the plane starts to stall
I’ll be there for youuu
When the wing is no more
I’ll be there for youuu
To state the claims are untruuu-uuue
So no one ever known a flight could’ve ended up this waaay
You’re out of hope, you lost your landing geeear
But our stocks are the lowest they’ve been so far this fiscal yeeeear, so
I’ve a job to doooo
Remind all the neeews
I’ve a job to doooo
Should I send this to Airbus marketing team ? 😂
Plot twist—they work for airbus.
Dude you nailed it
“It landed didnt it”
They always do!
No, sometimes they water.
There are more planes in the ocean than there are boats in the sky!
deleted by creator
It was simply changed to, “If it’s Boeing, I’m not going.”
I know a guy who works at Boeing
He says right now it’s pretty rough due to recent events but things were finally cooling down
That was before this news broke
He’s probably going to have a shitty day tomorrow with more visits from the FAA and other regulators
I don’t feel bad for your friend. One bad day at work or 100+ people dying?
A believe there have been quite a few articles published with interviews from former Boeing execs with who were around when the company went from engineer ran to finance ran. One of them I remember the former executive said part of why they will continue to not trust Boeing is they are only grounding planes to solve one problem at a time after it’s caused massive failure and not trying to engineer and solve all the problems they can so these failures stop happening mid flight.
You take the population of vehicles in the field (A) and multiple it by the probable rate of failure (B), then multiply the result by the average cost of an out-of-court settlement ©.
A times B times C equals X. This is what it will cost if we don’t initiate a recall. If X is greater than the cost of a recall, we recall the cars and no one gets hurt. If X is less than the cost of a recall, then we don’t recall.
Didn’t they cut all of those jobs recently? Wait. No. That was all their 900 QC door bolt retention confirmers that were ‘unnecessary’
Repeat after me:
“Everything’s fine. Nothing to see here. Move along.”
So with airlines needing bailouts, price gouging, and cost cutting affecting safety, maybe bring back the CAB era laws?
“Sitting right on the wing and the noise after reaching altitude was much louder than normal. I opened the window to see the wing looking like this,” user octopus_hug wrote. "How panicked should I be? Do I need to tell a flight crew member?
Holy shit, redditors are a special breed. Yes, you should probably tell someone.
I should go and find the comment.
deleted by creator
“hi sorry, I’m sitting in 20A, and, I don’t want to make a fuss or anything, but I’d appreciate if you took a peek out of my window,… Put me at ease that something I noticed on the wing is normal.”
“Here, I took a photo, mind looking?”
That’s far better than going “HOLY SHIT THE WING IS FALLING OFF!”. In an emergency you need to be calm but decisive, and not spread panic.
I saw the wing fall off a plane full of people but posted it for points instead of helping. AITA?
Now, all the AI are going to wonder how panicked they should be if their plane disassembled mid-flight
The right thing to do is to post it on X and @ the airline.
Fuck Boeing. And fuck United too.
So karma is real
Boeing please stop picking Gremlins as the in flight movie
Shows ‘Twilight zone: the movie’ instead.
Or the original Shatner episode.
“There’s something… on the wing!”
deleted by creator
This is more on the airline not doing their maintenance
Where does it say that the airline didn’t send the plane for maintenance?
Airlines don’t do their own maintenance, they send them back to Boeing.
A plane isn’t like a car, you don’t just have a go at changing the oil or fixing the brakes yourself and then hope for the best, you send it to the approved place when scheduled or you don’t fly.
The entire field of reliability-centered maintenance comes right out of aircraft maintenance in the 60s and 70s, term itself was penned by people working for united. It’s responsible for massive improvements in aircraft reliability, there’s a reason that you can point out specific events like this in the modern era.
On a different note, a lot of the guys I worked with out of uni were all aircraft mechanics who had served in the air force.
Where did you get your information that airliners send planes back to Boeing for maintenance? My quick search tells me that they generally don’t, and they either do it themselves, or rely on third parties called Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul (MRO) providers for heavier maintenance. In the case of United airlines, their MRO provider is called United Technical Operations, their own division.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/airplane-maintenance-disturbing-truth
https://simpleflying.com/aircraft-maintenance-checks/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_maintenance_checksThis is certifiably false information and seeing this sort of disinformation spread with this amount of certainty is disgusting.
Source: Aerospace engineer working for a competing Prime.
I knew a mechanical engineer that worked for an airline doing repairs. The plane would only go back to Boeing under serious need
This is not true at all. You’re right that planes aren’t like cars, but airlines absolutely do their own maintenance. The maintenance program is initially provided by Boeing and modified by the airline based on statistical monitoring of issues.
United Airlines - our planes are decrepit but at least the pretzels are… stale!
And they break guitars.
That’s why oanss have two wings, duh. for redundant sea.
Did they see it coming apart and say nothing to the crew?
E: another passenger did. Apparently not the clowns that had to get firsties posting to social media.
Dear passangers, fasten your seatbelts and don’t look on the left side. If you already did, don’t worry, self-dissasembling bus from Saint Petesburg does not fly near us, in fact this is our left wing.
Blanco Lirio analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoMTUuKIC2I
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=LoMTUuKIC2I
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Does it not seem like something may have hit the wing on takeoff; a bird perhaps? This might not be anyone’s fault.
Birdstrike doesn’t cause the type of damage which would produce this type of result.
