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I was happy for a second and then remembered that karma is a bad take and that he will be getting the absolute best available healthcare and even if he does die, he will be doing so having gotten to old age, in extreme luxury and in more comfort than any of us will ever experience.
I worry that if he does die soon it will only embolden royalist sentiment in this country as the grieving masses will cling on to the “young king” which the media will spin as “progressive” or whatever, and we’ll just keep getting further and further away from abolishing this disgusting establishment.
We seriously need a King Ralph type thing to happen, only the people take over, instead of a stereotypical American. Turn Buckingham palace in to a community centre with a kitchen and a shelter and childcare and a free mental health clinic, and put those gardens to actual use…
Karma is a lie white people tell themselves so they can continue to believe there’s justice in this world.
The same as religion, it all irritates me.
We MAKE justice happen, there is no universal cop.
Which is good because acab.
i dont think that one comes from white people
Karma is historically used and very insidious tool to keep the poor people poor and rich people rich.
We seriously need a King Ralph type thing to happen
More like King Louis XVI type thing to happen
I can understand you wanting to abolish the royal family (I do too), but I can’t understand your hatred of him personally, to actually be happy he has cancer. He doesn’t seem like a bad/evil person to me
You don’t exterminate mosquitoes because they are evil, you get rid of them because they are parasites, unable to exist without feeding on you and your loved ones. They are disease vectors, it’s us or them.
The royal family feeds into hierarchical structures. They benefit from our subjugation. They knowingly and intentionally contribute to death and misery worldwide for their own benefit. If Charles was a decent man he’d abdicate.
Jesus man mosquitos are just trying to live, that’s not a fair comparison for them
Then tell those mosquitoes to stop flapping their wings on my ear at 5 AM.
So petition for the monarchy to be dismantled. Write to your MP. If there’s enough support for it maybe we can get a referendum for it. Though unfortunately I don’t think there’s yet a significant majority of the public that do want that.
I just don’t get being happy at him having cancer. That doesn’t even bring us any closer to dismantling the monarchy. But I guess you must have reasons for having more hatred for him that I’ve not been exposed to
When have you ever seen a petition change a single thing? You really think that signing names on a piece of paper would be sufficient to take down the Monarchy?
You realize how naive that is at best, right?
Fair point, but it needs action, not just laughing at someone getting cancer
Can I do both?
Write to your MP. If there’s enough support for it maybe we can get a referendum for it.
Why write to them when you can start an official petition and get the House to debate abolishing the monarchy. Only need 10,000 signatures to force the issue to be debated.
If sitting on a gold throne, in a gold room, riding around in your gold carriage, covered in jewels, none of which were (or ever could be) “earned”, but rather pillaged, without even knowing what a days work feels like, while the people you’re parading your “god given right” to lord over, and whose wealth you hoard privately overseas, are having to choose between heating and eating as they work 3 zero hour jobs just to survive - isn’t considered evil in your mind, it is your moral compass that is the problem, not me feeling momentary joy when a cancer gets cancer.
He cheated on his wife, very publicly for years. Idk about your views but maintaining a mistress immediately excludes you from being a good person. Charles was a prick for a long time before he started committing to charity, conservation, social outreach programs, etc
No disagreements about about him being a prick, but wishing cancer and even death on another person seems pretty wild to me.
Please point to where anyone wished cancer on anyone?*
Also, the fact that people don’t feel sorry for the filthy rich old man getting what is almost certainly an age related disease (because it’s not like he was exposed to the levels of shit food and air and stress that gives the rest of us cancer), is wild to you, but the existence of a “god appointed” ruler that leeches off of his people while they struggle to survive isn’t, says a lot more about you than me not giving much of a shit does about me…
*E: you know what? Even if I had, wishing death on a person whose entire existence depends on the oppression (and death) of others on a mass, almost unimaginable scale, is still less morally repugnant than defending them. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Eat the fucking rich - they’ve brought it on themselves.I don’t think that wishing death on someone is always bad but I don’t really get it for King Charles
Y’all mother fuckers must be white as hell, then.
Is anyone going to bother to explain why he’s so bad?
Here’s an article going into some of the crown’s crimes, which Charles has willingly benefitted from and continues to do so.
Didn’t realise I opened twitter instead of Lemmy today…
But he was only happy for a second and since they believe in karma, now they aren’t happy. Nobody said no take backs so they’re probably good.
Fair enough!
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It’s costs too much to heat. You can build a modern structure with less money.
King Ralph.
Now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time.
A long time.
What exactly do you hate about him? Is it his stance on climate change or the Prince Trust maybe? The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power when the UK’s overseas influence is waning. What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?
The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power
The Royal family isnt an important source of tourism.
Palaces like Versailles and Sanssouci get millions of visitors every year without a group of racists and pedophiles around and actively in power to give it some greater meaning.
What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?
We’d become a proper modern country where the person who represents the nation is chosen by the nation? We’d move on from a system where who’s up front simply depends on who their mum or dad were? We’d rid ourselves of a system trained with centuries of imperial exploitation, racism and subjugation? We’d open up new tourism opportunities, with the palaces and castles being available for anyone to visit, a la Versailles?
And that’s just off the top of my head.
The UK truly is in shambles if their tourism industry and culture depend on a cabal of ghouls siphoning vast amounts of wealth from the people purely for show.
Personally, I like to think the people of the UK have a lot more to them than their vestigial rulers.
You think no tourist will go to see the palace if the inbreeds don’t exist anymore?
i actively want the UKs overseas influence to wane
I’ve got a very good news for you then! Heard of Brexit?
Feel free to educate yourself bootlicker, I’ll even start you off, but I don’t have the energy this evening to invest in someone with their head that deep up the ass of the establishment stomping an all our necks…
It doesn’t explain why you have so much venom. I see the royal family as British heritage. I don’t see how having a monarchy with no real power has any effect on the day to day lives of British people. Certainly not enough to explain the hate.
You know what else is a British heritage? Famines in India.
Aristocracy is privilege without any kind of merit whatsoever. It costs the tax payer millions and undermines democracy.
So some guy came to England, killed another guy who claimed to rule it, and now we have to watch their family spend eternity in decadent luxury because “British Heritage”. pfft.
Tell you what. I’ll go perform some actions that make myself king, and then a few generations from now my family will be British heritage. Then we can all be happy.
Not to mention that British heritage belongs to a German dynasty.
a monarchy with no real power
I don’t know if it’s that you don’t know anything about the royal family, or that you don’t know anything about how power works, or both.
They have influence, not governing power. Sure you could argue they don’t deserve the influence they have just for being in that position. The main point however is questioning the /hate/. I know you’re not the poster who I was replying to, but I didn’t want to distract the point of my post. Why should we hate the monarchy so much?
We shouldn’t hate the monarchy, necessarily. We should hate monarchy as a concept.
It’s archaic, it formalises and legitimises unbelievable levels of inequality and elitism, and it gives rise to at least the strong possibility (and in the UK’s case at least, the actuality) of a tiered legal system, with some laws simply not applying to some people because of their position.
It’s a repulsive idea, based on historical might and hereditary right, and with no regard for democracy or equality of all people.
That makes sense. I agree with that. Thank you.
I felt somewhat disheartened that the response of a guy announcing he has cancer is filled with such toxicity.
They have influence, not governing power
The old man that this post is about literally does have governing power, not only in the UK but also in 14 other countries including Australia and Canada. A common argument made by monarchists is that the monarch’s actual influence is negligible, and their governing power should be ignored because it is only ceremonial.
As Wikipedia puts it:
Royal assent is the method by which a monarch formally approves an act of the legislature, either directly or through an official acting on the monarch’s behalf. Under a modern constitutional monarchy, royal assent is considered little more than a formality. Even in nations such as the United Kingdom, Norway, the Netherlands, Liechtenstein and Monaco which still, in theory, permit their monarch to withhold assent to laws, the monarch almost never does so, except in a dire political emergency or on advice of government.
But… there is a catch:
It turns out that there is also a less formal process (or a “parliamentary convention”; another part of the UK’s heritage is having an “unwritten constitution”, whatever that means) called King’s Consent whereby the monarch, in secret, is consulted before parliament is allowed to debate anything which might affect their personal interests. And it turns out, a lot of things might affect their personal interests, so, this procedure has been and continues to be used to review, shape, and in some cases veto, numerous laws before they are allowed to be debated by parliament. You can read more here.
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They don’t even need that sort of power for the argument to hold weight but yes, they do hold exactly that sort of power and use it for things like ensuring that Buckingham Palace isn’t affected by racial equality in employment laws https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
Then they hide it from us, too
That is quite a damnig article. Thanks I understand your view on that now.
I don’t see how having a monarchy with no real power has any effect on the day to day lives of British people.
Then what the hell is the point in the amount of tax money that we spend on them? If tourism is such a big money spinner for the country then getting rid of them and keeping the related buildings would still bring in money without having to pay for the decadent lives of these parasites.
They are “British heritage” because they killed, conquered and stole from our ancestors.
So we blame the sons for the crimes of their fathers.
What do you mean by “blame”?
sorry, but arent the crimes of their fathers the sole basis for our worshipping them, allowing tbem political power and sending the pricks millions upon millions of tax payer pounds?
you dont reckon its a little disingenuous to complain about people shitting on their heritage when said heritage is the entire argument for their existence
You’re not wrong. I take the view that our history, be it good or bad, is part of who we are as a people. However, I wouldn’t want Britain to abolish the monarchy without good reason, and something that occured in the here and now rather than the past.
There are some replies to this thread that have enlightened me on the power the monarchy holds, which I don’t agree they shoud have. I initially thought the monarchy was a symbolic relic, but it seems it’s not the case.
Who cares about this random man having cancer?
When he dies the UK will spend around $300 milion on his funeral and a party for his kid.
Fuck the monarchy. Fucking parasites.
Unelected sponges, as Bill Bailey once put it
Will it also become a Holiday or is he not that cool?
So brave and controversial of you to pretend he’s just a random man
But he literally is an ordinary guy. The most consequential thing he has ever done with his life is to be born into an arbitrarily special family where he lived in luxury and prominence for no other reason than he continued existing. He is nothing more than an ordinary guy with extraordinary luck.
Luck or not he is the king, so he’s not just a random guy. Pretending to not undeerstand that fact just to make a point adds nothing to the discussion
So brave and controversial for you to be eating downvotes for not being in the hivemind
Hmm…
I care, I don’t like him and like the chance to cheer for the cancer
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It will be so funny if he takrs a sharp turn downhill and dies. Dude was famous for never getting a chance to be king and then to go out so quickly would be * chef’s kiss *
Oh his death bed “but mummy I want to be king!”
It is nevertheless another human you are talking about.
Do you think they have any compassion for the random proles like us? Like they could divest themselves of wealth to help people, and just live luxurious lives instead of gold flakes in food lives.
I think any human being with enough compassion to deserve treatment as anything more than a hostile enemy would do that
I think they’d have compassion enough to not laugh at somebody’s cancer diagnosis, yes.
I’m all for disliking the institution. Doesn’t mean I think he deserves to have cancer or it would be funny if he died.
He literally chooses every single day to actively ignore the plight of the people he claims to rule. He does nothing
Every single day he actively chooses to ignore suffering, probably even cracks jokes about it, while actively working to preserve his enormous privilege and protect his kin from facing consequences for their heinous actions. He stands at the head of an institution of violence, racism, cruelty, and exploitation and every single moment of his life he chooses to side with that over any earnest attempt to redeem their reputation.
The entire justification for their privilege is so insane it makes phrenology look respectable.
He is horrible, he could help so many people with a few words and the equivalent of pocket change but he chooses not to for fear of starting a process that ends with him living as one of the ordinary citizens he claims to protect. It’s fucking bananas that you think there is some moral reasons to extend civility to such a monsterous person.
If you think I’m defending the monarchy, think again. I’m defending compassion.
It’s not brave or noble to police expressions of anger at oppressors it’s just foolish. It won’t make society better, civility is just a tool the powerful use to enforce the status quo.
He chooses to let someone starve over feeding them, this is fine a civil behavior. I call him a fucking cunt for doing that and wish death upon him and this is uncivil behaviour and I lack compassion? nonsense, it is compassion that fills me with rage.
Good for you, you get a good start for morality then
Barely.
Nah.
Imagine anyone saying that about one of your family members.
It’s okay to wish bad things happen to a monarch billionaire landlord, actually. It’s good and rad.
If I ever have a golden piano while someone on the planet goes cold and hungry at night you can draw and quarter me.
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I’m rich! See ya later suckers, I’m subscribing to Lemmy Deluxe Edition!
it’s okay if my family members die shortly after becoming king of england
I love the people in here standing up for him lol. An absolute fuckton of people die every day. Basically every moment has human death in it. No one defending him cares a single wit about them, but they’ll get wound up over this old man dying of something many many people die of daily.
Considering everything that’s come out about the royal family, I can’t find a single care in me for him. I feel more for the countless faceless strangers dying worse deaths. This old pampered fuck will die well in comparison. He doesn’t need any sympathy from me.
you don’t have to be a royalist to feel empathy for someone with cancer…
I’ll save my empathy for cancer patients who don’t have his history.
Saved for the people who’s losing the NHS while the royal family have doctors 24/7, paid by tge taxpayers, ready for them.
Again, empathy isn’t a limited supply
Damn straight. Eat the rich and royalty.
Sympathy can be found between shit and syphilis in the dictionary
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He’s got a cool hat. He doesn’t wear it much, but he has it. That’s what matters.
Nothing is cool about this fucking family
The royal family, including Charles are big proponents of homeopathy. Let’s see how much homeopathy is going to help him now. I’m sure at least as much as those alternative methods Steve Jobs chose helped him, back then…
You’ve got to be kidding me. Is it corruption or stupidity? As in, are they selling vials of contaminated water as medicine or are they just known to trust pseudoscience?
The water/solvent isn’t even contaminated. It is deluted so thoroughly, you can’t even find a single molecule of whatever ingredient is supposed to show any effect.
Not supposed to be contaminated!
It’s hypocrisy and the typical rich bozo alienation syndrome, they have easy and unlimited access to best medicine in the world, so it’s easy to forget that others don’t and promote charlatanerie. It could also be malicious if we look at how they don’t do anything against gutting the healthcare.
So, stupidity or strong belief in placebo?
I imagine he is not that stupid nor really believes in a placebo.
i mean one of king charles issues has been furthering cancer research…
Oh no… anyway…
Oh man, he only just got his dream job.
Nah, he was doing his dream job the whole time, running a research farm and advocating for sustainable farming practices. Soon as he became king, he had to stop with the targeted advocacy.
he also advocated for homoeopathy…maybe that’s what he’ll treat his cancer with (i hope so)
I recently got the side-eye from a lot of people because I said that homeopathy is not the same as natural remedies.
What’s unnatural about water?
It’s not that there’s anything unnatural about water. It’s just not a remedy for anything but dehydration.
Ah the Steve Jobs treatment method, maybe he’ll adopt the fruit diet. Shame Harry gave up his claim, he seemed like the one with Lizzie’s spirit
oh no anyway
but in all seriousness I hope he dies that guy is a piece of shit
Based on what specific actions? Just curious
He was close friends with two high profile pedophiles. That’s enough for me.
- He’s a Royal.
Yeah, hot take, but he’s underrated. Monarchy is dumb but at least this guy is progressive and personally kind.
Personally kind enough to publicly carry on an affair for years
Just sounds like a rich dude to me. Like, I think this is the main reason he’s unpopular, but aristos often keep a harem and Diana herself seems overrated.
We all gotta get some
Him and his current wife visibly mocked Inuit throat singers and have a long history of being childish and rude during events that are supposed to honor them. Personally kind to whom?
Did he? I didn’t know about that. So, just white people then.
When I signed up here, I genuinely thought this place was going to be better than Reddit. Seeing the difference in comments here and on Reddit for this exact same piece of news, just made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
“Could it be that the zero empathy is because the man is reviled globally for good reasons?”
“No, it’s the colonized who are wrong.”
The redditors got it right for once?
Why would you have empathy for monarchs? It’s the ultimate form of nepotism, believing that they can rule an entire country because of their bloodline. If they don’t abdicate the throne and dissolve the institution, they don’t deserve respect.
The redditors didn’t agree with wishing death upon the man, no. It was the exact opposite from what I saw.
Redditors habitually wish death upon homeless people and porch pirates, of course they bootlick monarchs too.
Probably just the anglo intelligence assets that pass for moderators over there removed all the cool comments. What can you do
Imagine pearl clutching for some ancient inbred royal dipshit. Literal medieval peasant brain. “Oh no won’t someone think of the million year old pervert who lived a long life full of luxury one can barely begin to comprehend” Fuck him, fuck his whole family, I hope every single royal gets aggressive untreatable cancer, that’s better than they deserve.
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I didn’t vote for him!Holy fucking shit, triggered much little bro?
Mainly confused and surprised someone would support a monarch in the 21st century. You don’t even have the excuse that the queen has been in charge for your whole life so you feel obligated to support her out of a misplaced sense of loyalty or something. Some ancient failson gets to sit in a golden chair and you can’t lick his boots fast enough. It’s pathetic, you aren’t even worshiping someone who can claim they got to where they are on personal merit, he just had to wait for his mom to die and he almost couldn’t even do that! Monarchy is such a farce, I’d be embarrassed to support that shit
Sure seems to have hit a nerve with you.
Charlie is never gonna fuck you.
made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
Is every person the king of england or how do you get to this conclusion?
No one voted for the wanker, but we still have to pay to keep him and his incestous kin in riches while our fellow countrymen starve in the street.
He wants pity, he should abandon this hereditary rule bullshit and take all those unelected peers up in parliament with him back to the medieval age where they belong.
If this was a gay asylum seeking Guatemalan Muslim woman union leader we’d probably react differently, so you’re wrong about that.
Damn redditors actually have a correct opinion on the most basic thing?
Well shit, broken clocks and all that
Reading is hard apparently. I said the difference in comments between here and reddit, meaning what I saw over there was NOT people wishing for his death.
Common Reddit L
give us one singular solitary good reason we should have empathy for this decrepit, cheating, silver spoon mouthed, tax leeching, sex pest, waste of money and attention
He’s about to prove homeopathy really works. He’s going to change the world for the better.
Not so, we have plenty of empathy for those who actually deserve it.
Palestine will be free, long live the PFLP, long live Ansar Allah, full support to the DPRK in it’s quest to free their southern siblings from beneath the heel of the genocidal American empire.
king charlie plz notice me uwu
Nah its just a leftist echo chamber. They have sympathy for the working class, but are very prejudiced against the wealthy. Personally, I would guess Charles is a decent human being, like most people. Im sure hes done some shitty things over the course of a long and extremely public life, but pretty much everyone has. I disagree with the concept of royalty but that doesn’t mean I want all monarchs to drop dead. Not a lot of nuance on Lemmy.
I understand your frustration but I fail to understand why the need of empathy for a monarch of all people
Prostate cancer is very common, very survivable, and very easily treatable. It’s a serious health problem, but he’s almost definitely gonna be fineMe fail reading comprehension. The article says it’s NOT prostate cancer
What I read said it wasn’t prostate cancer, but also wouldn’t say what cancer it was.
I would think colon cancer then. They “found” it during prostate exam. So same area.
Seeing as he is a rich cunt, it could be glioblastoma if they found it during the prostate exam.
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Fucking dies
Lmaooo
English taxpayers paying for another coronation ceremony be like: 🥶*
* can’t pay to heat their house.
Don’t knock it, we get a day off when they die and a day off when we get a new one.
Sometimes we get a day off when they’ve been on the throne for a set number of years.
So for that reason I’d like to keep them.
Give us two extra bank holidays a year, and you can King Ralph all these motherfuckers.
I mean, it did bring more money into the economy than it took out of it, same with Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, so we could profit off of this
And least he got to be king first :P
I haven’t seen any new coins yet with his face on it. It may be the shortest run of coins with a new face. I’ve had the same face on my coins for my entire life, these will be the first with a new one.
Shortest run was probably Edward VIII. My dad found a coin with Charles’s face on it. I also bought a few commemoratives. I think it’ll probably start appearing on £1 coins soon as they are the newest
Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.
Which raises a good question… who was the shortest serving British monarch?
Oh, of COURSE there’s a Wiki for that…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchy_records
"The shortest-reigning monarch was Lady Jane Grey who ruled for 9 days from 6 July until 15 July 1553 (although she was only proclaimed queen by the Lords of the council on 10 July). Her husband Lord Guildford Dudley was her consort for the entire reign, making this the shortest tenure of the male consort of a female monarch. Note: Jane’s reign is disputed.
The king with the shortest definitively known reign was Edgar the Ætheling who ruled for 2 months, 12 days in 1066 before submitting to William the Conqueror. Some records indicate that Sweyn Forkbeard reigned for only 40 days in 1013–4.[7]"
Queen Elizabeth II died 9/8/2022, so Charles has already been in 514 days. He’s good…
He’s still pretty far down the overall list though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_in_Britain_by_length_of_reign
Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.
That makes a lot of sense actually. Elizabeth II cut into his time.
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So is it the pedo next in line?
No, he’s completely out of the running unless all of King Charles children and grandchildren mysteriously die
Don’t give the pedo any ideas
I think it’s primogeniture monarchy, so it’s from parent to child. Next in line is Charles’ firstborn.
all royalty are bastards
…ARAB?
Except Souphanouvong of Laos, he was cool. Pu-Yi after getting a real job of gardener also could count.
I can’t wait to be smoking on that king pack. #RipBozo meme is locked and loaded.
