Maybe they were suggesting that those that are criticizing are welcome but should be orderly and take turns?

Yeah, abjectly hate conversation view.

But stand-up comedy has something for everyone!

Oh, this is about the depressing nexus between programming and corporate culture. Carry on.

Doesn’t sound like a design flaw, it’s the whole point, only reason you need a cancellation portal.

Maybe just protect everyone’s right to privacy?

Their enforcement mechanism ensure the opposite.

That’s skipping over the fact that recovering deleted data, even if it isn’t overwritten, is not an “oops”. It it takes extra effort, and if that data isn’t being protected it would be overwritten incidentally as drives are used.

There is a big difference in a database between “flagging” data and actually removing the association of the data to the database.

The article is being disingenuous about data not being deleted unless it’s overwritten with 1’s and 0’s. Technically that’s true, but:

Most data being deleted is equivalent to a piece of paper being placed in a trashcan, and it’s “permanently” deleted when that trash gets hauled away to a landfill (or supposedly recycling but that’s another topic). Technically it’s still forensically accessible, but it isn’t accessible by any normal means. That piece of paper may not have been incinerated, but for the majority of practical purposes, it’s gone.

Apple never hauled the trash away, even though they claimed they did. There should be no way for them to accidentally restore those photos, just like there’s no way for you to accidentally get a piece of paper back in your trash bin after it’s been sent to a landfill.

Focusing on the 1s and 0s skips past the fact they failed to complete the first, obvious, essential step. If they didn’t delete it the simple way, they would never have gotten to the 1s and 0s step. This isn’t just a simple oversight, and those pictures were still very easily accessible, just not to the people who should have been in control of them.

Thank you!

Can’t read the post past the giant subscribe things banner :/

Article is ten years old.

Hopefully we stop wasting this limited resource on fucking balloons.

Edit: well this kicked off a fun and respectful conversation. The information I can find from actual scientists says wasting helium on balloons is bad. The balloon lobby says it is just a waste byproduct. The balloon lobby brings nothing of value to the world in terms of plastic or helium use, so I’m going to go with the science opinion on this one.

It’s unfortunately their business model is 100% extortionate bullshit.

Which isn’t the point of the article. I’m glad this is being reported on and hope that type of competition leads to better working conditions.

What fight? Google is making money, and nearly everyone is playing Google’s game following their tune. Google is definitely not losing.

Yep, that’s why it’s so important that people who produce value shouldn’t be able to retain it! Silly employees.

I agree those are good things to do.

But… Blaming people who are being fucked over by forces generally outside their control is not really going to help their or our situation. Expecting or demanding “people” to just change is also not realistic. Even if they wanted to, time, effort, energy, knowledge, skills, and attention are all finite. This is just one important issue or source of exploitation among a sea of others.

Needed to make sure they didn’t have room to name the legislation.

There are more than two options for messaging now.

Both primary phone platforms are kinda shit though.

Not sure this should be world news…